Election '08
Written by Matthew Locke at 10:36 PM
10.36pm: Damnit, my connection mostly held out until the last question, which I totally missed. Will try to find it, view it, and post final thoughts a little later. Initially, though, assuming no meltdown or great zinger in the final moments, my impression is that this was a stronger performance by both candidates than the previous debate but also (perhaps predictably) lacked any strong clash or game-changing moments. And with four weeks till election day and a ten-point deficit, that's a pretty big loss for McCain.
10.29pm: The 'talking without preconditions' argument is not a winning one for the Republicans. It's also, y'know, wrong. On the other hand, the surge.
10.25pm: I'll have to look at the transcript again later, but to my ears McCain's answer on the 'Evil Empire' approached Sarah Palin levels of incoherence. Except on the surge.
10.24pm: I don't like either answer on Russia. Georgia in 2008 is Serbia in 1914, and being tied to Serbia didn't work out so well for the Czar. That being said, the surge.
10.18pm: McCain's blinking a lot. I was reading an article recently (I forget where) that pointed out not only that blinking is a subconscious response to lying, but is also subconsciously understood by observers as the behavior of a liar. I would like to add: the surge!
10.16pm: McCain: 'I'll get Osama bin Laden, my friends. I know how to get him. I'll get bin Laden. I promise I'll get him. I know how to get him. I'm not going to telegraph my punches but I know how to get him.' Maybe this is like his secret plan to fix social security? Or to magically end dependence on foreign oil? Or to not force Americans to make tough choices, like, evar? Also, the surge.
10.15pm: Obama done gone make McCain angry. Surge!
10.14pm: McCain's belly-aching about Obama asking for a follow-up after he so obviously lied sounds whiny. The surge.
10.11pm: McCain: 'Senator Obama has said that he would announce that he wants to attack Pakistan.' I mean, this is obviously untrue, but does it even sound true? The surge.
10:07pm: John McCain (maybe slightly paraphrased): 'More than anything with foreign policy we need a cool hand at the tiller.' Not sure that's helping your case, John. Then again, the surge.
10:06pm: 'The McCain Doctrine': the very sound sends chills down my spine. A surge of chills.
10.05pm: I missed most of the first question on foreign policy but my sense is that Obama schooled McCain on being wrong about Iraq once again. I can also only assume that McCain mentioned the surge at some point (probably many many points).
10.01pm: Hair transplants? The audience isn't allowed to laugh, which make McCain's jokes even lamer. Brokaw, however, is loving it.
10.00pm: An hour in, no game-changing moments. Both candidates are stronger and more relaxed in this format, which is more of an improvement for McCain than for Obama. Still, a tie goes to Obama because his message is the one America wants to hear. And, of course, McCain needs more than just a victory in this debate. He needs, well, a game-changing moment.
9.55pm: On mandates McCain has appropriated almost word-for-word Obama's attack on Clinton's health care plan back during the primaries. Of course, Obama's plan only has mandates to require that children receive health care.
9.49pm: McCain refers to the sitting President and Vice-President as 'BushandCheney', the one-word form preferred by Air America hosts and WTO protesters.
9.43pm: John McCain: 'Fixing social security is going to be easy.' Phew. I was starting to think it might take some work; turns out it's so easy that McCain doesn't even have to try to provide a plan, just assert it'll be simple and go back to talking about what a Giant Maverick he is.
9.42pm: Obama manages to go back to taxes and provides the same strong answer he did in the previous debate.
9.38pm: Obama's answer, emphasizing fairness and burden-sharing, will make a lot of conservatives shudder but probably sounds reasonable and appealing to most voters. McCain's attack on Obama's raising taxes on small business sounds as tin-eared tonight as it ever did. He also, as usual, dances pretty close to the line between truth and lie in comparing his tax plan to Obama's. He knows there's no chance for Obama to respond.
9.35pm: To be serious here, for a moment, the sense of entitlement McCain betrayed in his answer to the 'sacrifice' problem -- 'We're Americans! We don't have to give anything up!' -- reflects precisely the kind of thinking that got us into the economic bind we're in now. Obama, on the other hand, is actually answering the question. I've heard his line about Bush telling America to shop in the aftermath of 9/11. I can remember at the time thinking that Bush was hitting the right sentiment; Obama's point, however, actually gives me pause.
9.31pm: McCain will save the economy and eliminate the deficit by curtailing expenditures on overhead projectors.
9.30pm: Best thing that's happened to McCain tonight: while Obama's speaking no split-screen close-ups of McCain's creepy barely-restrained-rage grin.
9.24pm: Brokaw: Which of the three would you prioritize most? McCain: All three! Every pair of eyes in America: Rolling.
9.23pm: I just realized -- off-shore drilling and nuclear power will end America's dependence on foreign oil! Of course!
9.18pm: Did McCain just look Obama in the eye?
9.17pm: Maybe I missed something, but I thought Brokaw wasn't allowed follow-up questions?
9.13pm: McCain attacks Obama on Fannie Mae connections. Michelle Malkin just swooned.
9.10pm: I missed most of Obama's answer to the question. McCain seems relatively confident and relaxed and much friendlier than in the first round.
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